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No valid testimony under the Law

February 18, 2012

From a forum post:

I am aware of traditional opinions.

One of the major dispenationalists, William Kelly, maybe, said that there is now no valid testimony under the law of Moses.

Being in leadership position, he put it gently.

I am inclined to go as far as to look at the fourth seal as a picture of Jacob in the post-apostolic church age. Complete spiritual death until the dry bones come to life.

What relation those who call themselves Israel or Jews in our time have to the physical link, the dry bones, is, in detail, beyond our comprehension. God will sort out the mixture of races and inheritance.

So, after nineteen centuries, physical identity is problematic. Culural identity is obscured by the diminution of essential first century teachings.

But the name, like the name Christian, is special. Some regard must be given to this. But this has more to do with proper behavior in this world than a direct spiritual link.

Idividuals have their own view points which are allowed, if not used of God for his own purposes.

We all are encouraged when ancestors have been connected with worthy, particularly spiritually worthy endeavors.

The material blessings of the modern world have much of their basis on the rise of English puritanism. And much to do with the organizing and financial capabilities of Jews and Scots and Quakers.

But a common belief for all believers needs to be based on scripture and reason.

And even the best ethnic position was regarded as excrement (“rubbish” is a euphemism), by the apostle we are to imitate as an imitator of Christ.

(Phi 3:3-11 NKJ) For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh, 4 though I also might have confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6 concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 7 But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. 8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.


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